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they want to raise revenue by reviewing the current tax deduke system. house speaker john boehner has urged the president to compromise. >> our members believe strongly that raising tax rates will hurt the economy. now we need a response from the white house. >> unless the two sides reach an agreement by the end of this year, the automatic tax increases and spending cuts will take effect in the new year. >>> time to get a check on the markets now. the nikkei here in tokyo rose above the key 9,500 level as concerns about the u.s. economy eased. the nikkei index right now trading at 9521, a gain of over .5% from wednesday's close. traders said positive remarks about a fiscal cliff deal by president obama are aiding share prices. i guess port-related issues are leading the gains as the weakening trend of the yen is continuing. so let's take a look at the currency markets. the dollar is higher against the yen. that's on better than expected nonmanufacturing data out of the u.s. 82.40-43. euro/yen, that's in the mid 107 yen levels this thursday morning. takin
they want to raise revenue by reviewing the current tax deduke system. house speaker john boehner has urged the president to compromise. >> our members believe strongly that raising tax rates will hurt the economy. now we need a response from the white house. >> unless the two sides reach an agreement by the end of this year, the automatic tax increases and spending cuts will take effect in the new year. >>> time to get a check on the markets now. the nikkei here in tokyo...
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pressed his case at the home of a middle class family in virginia today, part of his pitch to extend tax cuts for all but the very wealthy. good evening, i'm jeffrey brown. >> woodruff: and i'm judy woodruff. on the "newshour" tonight, we update the state of the negotiations and examine the push to make changes to social security and medicare. >> brown: then, margaret warner looks at the political strife in egypt, after deadly clashes in the streets and resignations by top officials. >> woodruff: we have a battleground dispatch from a coastal city facing rising sea levels and the next big storm. >> if sandy were to come close r directly into norfolk i think we'd all be in big trouble. >> brown: we assess the latest diplomatic moves to end syria's war, as secretary of state hillary clinton meets with russia's foreign minister. >> woodruff: and ray suarez has the story of a program that aims to put students at low-achieving schools on a path to high school graduation. >> we're here to make things better. we're here to tutor kids. we're here to make sure that they stay on track. we are here
pressed his case at the home of a middle class family in virginia today, part of his pitch to extend tax cuts for all but the very wealthy. good evening, i'm jeffrey brown. >> woodruff: and i'm judy woodruff. on the "newshour" tonight, we update the state of the negotiations and examine the push to make changes to social security and medicare. >> brown: then, margaret warner looks at the political strife in egypt, after deadly clashes in the streets and resignations by top...
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the journal "politico" reported he's urging colleagues to extend middle class tax cuts but allow tax rates for top earners to rise for now. that's what the president wants, but republican leaders have called for raising revenues by closing loopholes and capping deductions. and this morning, house speaker john boehner said he'd reinforced that position to congressman cole. >> you're not going to grow the economy if you raise tax rates on the top two rates. it'll hurt small businesses, it'll hurt our economy, it's why it's not the right approach. we're willing to put revenue on the table as long as we're not raising rates. >> brown: despite the president's talk of changing minds, "politico's" manu raju says that privately, house republicans think they can win this fight. >> right now the republican leadership feels pretty confident that they have most of their folks in line. they all generally support keeping tax rates low for virtually for every single income group. they do not want to see incomes increase for that top tax bracket. >> brown: meanwhile, on the senate floor, minority le
the journal "politico" reported he's urging colleagues to extend middle class tax cuts but allow tax rates for top earners to rise for now. that's what the president wants, but republican leaders have called for raising revenues by closing loopholes and capping deductions. and this morning, house speaker john boehner said he'd reinforced that position to congressman cole. >> you're not going to grow the economy if you raise tax rates on the top two rates. it'll hurt small...
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but he ruled out higher tax rates. most democrats have ruled out all of those cuts, arguing they would undermine the nation's most successful programs. the president asked for, but it appears republicans would be unlikely to agree to give the president the ability to raise the debt limit unless a super- majority in congress disapproves after the fact. that option was developed by senator mcconnell himself. >> members hate that vote, as you know, because they are voting to increase the debt, but that's why they should have it, because it's a reminder of what this fiscal policy is doing and it holds congress accountable for doing it. >> reporter: so the first week or real bargaining on the fiscal cliff ended with a loud chorus of "no's." and there are only a few more weeks left to get to yes on some of the toughest policy issues dividing democrats and republicans. darren gersh, "n.b.r.," washington. >> tom: many companies aren't waiting on washington to reach an agreement on taxes and spending. they're taking action now
but he ruled out higher tax rates. most democrats have ruled out all of those cuts, arguing they would undermine the nation's most successful programs. the president asked for, but it appears republicans would be unlikely to agree to give the president the ability to raise the debt limit unless a super- majority in congress disapproves after the fact. that option was developed by senator mcconnell himself. >> members hate that vote, as you know, because they are voting to increase the...
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, it would put you in the 50% tax bracket. it means i would get $125 million, free and clear, which is my money. i would invest some of it in the stock market, donate some of it to the churches. >> i would take a lump sum. >> reporter: why would you take a lump sum? >> because i don't know how long i'm going to live. >> tom: we spoke with susan bradley, founder of the sudden money institute and a certified financial planner. susan, tha thanks for joining us. an inheritance or a lottery -- how do you make that decision between taking a lump sum or stretching out the payments. >> you take a lot of time before you get to that decision. it is certainly not your first decision. your first thing to do is change management. we do a triage to see what is most important, and we deal with urgent things first, that are really going to affect well-being. usually the lump sum versus payment is something that you can put off for at least a month or two. >> tom: are we culturally bias to take the money and run now, compared to wait a generat
, it would put you in the 50% tax bracket. it means i would get $125 million, free and clear, which is my money. i would invest some of it in the stock market, donate some of it to the churches. >> i would take a lump sum. >> reporter: why would you take a lump sum? >> because i don't know how long i'm going to live. >> tom: we spoke with susan bradley, founder of the sudden money institute and a certified financial planner. susan, tha thanks for joining us. an...
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>> right now the whole discussion is tax rates of course tax reform. we're not pushing any particular plan because the last thing you need is a whole bunch of people coming to washington saying do it exactly this way. do it exactly this way. we just need to fix the problem, and we need to do it in a way that is god fo --good for the economy and protects the most vulnerable in the society. >> does it matter if we have tax rates at 35% or 39%, or would ite more important get this uncertainty out of the way? would that help the economy more? >> i think that's the exact point, that everybody, small businesses and big businesses are going to have different preferences for exactly how you fix the tax code, but the message they're delivering is a fix in and of itself that is real, and that would fix the problem, would be so beneficial for them. >> are we going to fix the problem? are we going ove over the cliff? >> this is coming down to the wire. i feelore pessimistic that i have before. the level of negotiatng may in part be for show, but i'm terribly conce
>> right now the whole discussion is tax rates of course tax reform. we're not pushing any particular plan because the last thing you need is a whole bunch of people coming to washington saying do it exactly this way. do it exactly this way. we just need to fix the problem, and we need to do it in a way that is god fo --good for the economy and protects the most vulnerable in the society. >> does it matter if we have tax rates at 35% or 39%, or would ite more important get this...
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we can get a tax rebate up to about 3,000 u.s. dollars. >> we'll buy on eco car because it saves energy and not so expensive and covered by the tax rebate program. >> reporter: japanese auto makers plan to boost production in thailand. the country is one of the most important manufacturing hubs. they're betting economic growth and prosperity will continue to rise aas the group moves towards creating an economy culminating in 2015. >> translator: southeast asia's auto industry should enjoy 7 to 8% growth, similar to china over the next four or five years. compared to other countries in the region, thailand is the leader in auto production and has the soundest supply chain. >> reporter: thailand's auto industry has on the goal of producing 3 million cars a year within the next five years even after the floods of 2011, the country remains in the driving seat of the fast-growing auto market. >>> a powerful typhoon struck the philippines. at least 37 people are dead. more than 50,000 have fled into shelters. typhoon is heading northwes
we can get a tax rebate up to about 3,000 u.s. dollars. >> we'll buy on eco car because it saves energy and not so expensive and covered by the tax rebate program. >> reporter: japanese auto makers plan to boost production in thailand. the country is one of the most important manufacturing hubs. they're betting economic growth and prosperity will continue to rise aas the group moves towards creating an economy culminating in 2015. >> translator: southeast asia's auto industry...
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you can rest assured that they're going to be tax increases, tax-rate increases for the top 2%. you're probably going to see more in the form of health care entitlement cuts. >> ifill: you're thinking, however, that whatever compromise they come up with will be some distance from what you proposed more than a year ago? >> tualy, it wasore than a year ago. it was more than two years ago. times change. elections happen. there are consequences to those elections. yes, i think you'll see a different product come out. but i think the key is you're going to see a balanced approach with both revenue and spending cuts. you're going to see at least $4 trillion because that is the minimum amount you have to reduce the deficit in order to stabilize the debt and get it on a downward path as a percent of g.d.p. >> ifill: you said a moment ago that this is theater. these are both like opening bids that either side is goingo reject. how do we get past that? how do they get past that if, in fact, the catastrophe everyone is warning about is to be avoided. >> if they got to agreement the way was
you can rest assured that they're going to be tax increases, tax-rate increases for the top 2%. you're probably going to see more in the form of health care entitlement cuts. >> ifill: you're thinking, however, that whatever compromise they come up with will be some distance from what you proposed more than a year ago? >> tualy, it wasore than a year ago. it was more than two years ago. times change. elections happen. there are consequences to those elections. yes, i think you'll...
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taxes will go up. democrats proposes a bill that cuts taxes on the middle class. the republicans don't dare vote it down. we'll have gotten the higher taxes on the wealthy through this back door route. tim geithner is right. you cannot have a seer imrus plan unless those tax rat on the wealthy go up. >> ifill: the president is... hassles proposedded something that john boehner calls silliness or secretary geithner actually did which is taking thed why of the debt ceiling off of congress' plate. something which members of congress seem to think at least is a no starter. what is the value in putting that out there? >> well again it needs to be said. this is crazy. the way that the debt ceiling works is that congress can actually vote to not tax enough to pay for the spending it proposes and then it can refuse to allow the government to borrow the money to make up the difference between its own spending bills and its own tax bills. this is crazy. this is a license for continual irresponsibility. and of course we're heading for... the republicans are attempting to do
taxes will go up. democrats proposes a bill that cuts taxes on the middle class. the republicans don't dare vote it down. we'll have gotten the higher taxes on the wealthy through this back door route. tim geithner is right. you cannot have a seer imrus plan unless those tax rat on the wealthy go up. >> ifill: the president is... hassles proposedded something that john boehner calls silliness or secretary geithner actually did which is taking thed why of the debt ceiling off of congress'...
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we don't want to increase tax rates. we're not going to increase tax rates. >> warner: a white house spokesman shot back that republicans ought not to be surprised that mr. obama is sticking to his guns. and congressional democrats, like house minority leader nancy pelosi, welcomed the president's plan. >> elections have consequences. the president campaigned-- he made it very clear, he made it very clear that he was supporting a tax cut for the middle class, that he wanted the expiration of the tax cuts for the highnd. and the american people know that debate, they voted for him. >> warner: still, despite all the tough talk, reporter todd zwillich of wnyc and public radio international says there's more movement behind the scenes than meets the eye. >> there does tend to be a pattern to how big negotiations like this go. the fact that they haven't reached an agreement yet doesn't mean they won't before christmas, doesn't mean they won't before new years. there is a value in doing some public posturing and trying to get
we don't want to increase tax rates. we're not going to increase tax rates. >> warner: a white house spokesman shot back that republicans ought not to be surprised that mr. obama is sticking to his guns. and congressional democrats, like house minority leader nancy pelosi, welcomed the president's plan. >> elections have consequences. the president campaigned-- he made it very clear, he made it very clear that he was supporting a tax cut for the middle class, that he wanted the...
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obama travels to suburban philadelphia tomorrow, pressing to raise taxes on top earners, but keep tax cuts for everyone else. wall street initially fell after house speaker boehner said there'd been no progress on a fiscacliff dea but stocks rose later, on news that the economy grew at an annual rate of 2.7% in the third quarter. the dow jones industrial average gained more than 36 points to close well above 13,021. the nasdaq rose 20 points to close at 3,012. the united nations general assembly voted today to recognize palestine as a non- member observer state. the tally was 138 to nine, with 41 abstentions. the u.s. voted no. it came after palestinian president mahmoud abbas appealed to the world body to issue the birth certificate of palestine. >> we did not come here seeking to delegitimize a state established years ago, and that is israel. rather, we came to affirm the legitimacy of a state that must now achieve its independence, and this is palestine. >> sreenivasan: palestinians said the vote would strengthen their hand in future peace talks with israel. but the israeli ambassa
obama travels to suburban philadelphia tomorrow, pressing to raise taxes on top earners, but keep tax cuts for everyone else. wall street initially fell after house speaker boehner said there'd been no progress on a fiscacliff dea but stocks rose later, on news that the economy grew at an annual rate of 2.7% in the third quarter. the dow jones industrial average gained more than 36 points to close well above 13,021. the nasdaq rose 20 points to close at 3,012. the united nations general...
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a little the taxes they are talking about. no one likes to pay more taxes, but the effect on the market, the things that are being proposed would be overstated. i don't think a downgrading by the credit agencies is factored into people's thinking. so that part of it, if they do something that makes the credit agencies, all of them in unison downgrade as to something below, think about this, that is not a good thing. that disturbs the markets. lou: so and other smart people watched, the speaker off fumbled through his rhetoric to say how tough he is and how resolute the white house will be in all of this. the reaction is in the markets, if it goes another couple of weeks. >> people are saying we are all idiots. people who don't have anything to do with washington and we have to live in places where we are the safest. the debt market or the equities market, particularly the equities market. china, germany, the u.s. they can survive these crazy politicians. lou: tell important. what do you think we can expect? >> far less signifi
a little the taxes they are talking about. no one likes to pay more taxes, but the effect on the market, the things that are being proposed would be overstated. i don't think a downgrading by the credit agencies is factored into people's thinking. so that part of it, if they do something that makes the credit agencies, all of them in unison downgrade as to something below, think about this, that is not a good thing. that disturbs the markets. lou: so and other smart people watched, the speaker...
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they also pay a high rate of tax but nowhere near as high as the u.k. we've got the netherlands pays around forty eight percent tax germany pays around forty percent average families that pay in tax now we spoke to a few londoners on the streets and i asked them about how they feel about how much tax they pay let's take a listen i'm not particularly looking for us personally each player such as it should be fair across the board people should pay proportionately. from it really. feels like it's going to the fact that some of. the communities it's just. good. business. so as you can see there are a lot of people just extremely frustrated that they aren't getting any of their local services back it's demoralizing figure and as the government had promised to recognise marriage to provide some of these tax breaks they haven't done that yet and in the run up to christmas with prices on the rise through prices fuel prices just the price of heating a family's home this is very very bad news and a lot of people feeling extremely frustrated about it. he's maybe
they also pay a high rate of tax but nowhere near as high as the u.k. we've got the netherlands pays around forty eight percent tax germany pays around forty percent average families that pay in tax now we spoke to a few londoners on the streets and i asked them about how they feel about how much tax they pay let's take a listen i'm not particularly looking for us personally each player such as it should be fair across the board people should pay proportionately. from it really. feels like it's...
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two ws and bush tax cuts. melissa: we afree on that. >> bush tax cuts. melissa: we have spent way too . this plan doesn't basically entitlement spending. we don't get our snding, with any ofthese three plans. even going over the cliff we don't get the spendin in order. i will giv you the last word. th we go on. >> the issue with the republicans they're losing is. they're losing the argument, the debate, they're losing everythi. what we need to do is, to respond to the question, what do we do now in three weeks? let's go aheadand give 98% of the american people a tax t. none of us are ignoring the viability and importance of looking at entitlement reform as it relates to savings getting rid of waste fraud and abuse and other aspects. i will not tolerate increase in eligibility or raising the age but what republicans are doing is, they are putting theissue taxes and theye not telling the american people that the enlightment reform and tax reform is ane orissues thatan be discussed in 2013 in deliberative manner liening to you constituents. that is the key.
two ws and bush tax cuts. melissa: we afree on that. >> bush tax cuts. melissa: we have spent way too . this plan doesn't basically entitlement spending. we don't get our snding, with any ofthese three plans. even going over the cliff we don't get the spendin in order. i will giv you the last word. th we go on. >> the issue with the republicans they're losing is. they're losing the argument, the debate, they're losing everythi. what we need to do is, to respond to the question, what...
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it's not the tax cuts going into effect. and -- >> you mean the millions of dollars -- >> the cuts that will be forced through in the next two years. that's a much bigger risk to the economy. >> therefore? >> therefore, if the president lets this thing -- look, the markets have already priced this in. >> i hear the opposite. i hear that they believe that grown-ups will do the job when they have to. they don't believe they're going to let us go over the cliff. >> i don't think the grown-ups believe they have to do the job by january 1st. i believe they believe the grown-ups have to do the job by january 30th or february 15th. >> they're going to believe the politicians can get the job done when they failed to get it done by january 1st. they're then going to believe -- >> i hear what steve is saying there. i'm standing in your camp, which is a rare spot for me to be in, standing in chris's camp here, but i think you're right. i think the markets have not baked this into their equation. >> dysfunction and childishness. >> dysf
it's not the tax cuts going into effect. and -- >> you mean the millions of dollars -- >> the cuts that will be forced through in the next two years. that's a much bigger risk to the economy. >> therefore? >> therefore, if the president lets this thing -- look, the markets have already priced this in. >> i hear the opposite. i hear that they believe that grown-ups will do the job when they have to. they don't believe they're going to let us go over the cliff....
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oracle is among the latest corporations trying to beat the clock on next year's expected tax increase. oracle's board has approved accelerated dividend payments for the second, third and 4th quarters of next year. nhl owners and players plan to meet today in a renewed effort to move the puck on labor talks. let's see what's going on with the market today with matt shapiro, president of mws capital. good morning to you. > > good morning angie. > this is certainly one moody market. it seems to move on every word that comes out of washington. > > absolutely. actually, i am surprised, given the stalemate that we had this weekend and the gop yesterday having a counter offer - they are miles apart, but the market really held in there, and i think, at this point, the market is just basically pricing in that nothing really good is going to happen in washington, at least for now. > what about manufacturing matt? the numbers came in solid for china, not so good for the u.s. there was a bit of a slip. > > i think some of that is the concern. but at least the silver lining is positive for china.
oracle is among the latest corporations trying to beat the clock on next year's expected tax increase. oracle's board has approved accelerated dividend payments for the second, third and 4th quarters of next year. nhl owners and players plan to meet today in a renewed effort to move the puck on labor talks. let's see what's going on with the market today with matt shapiro, president of mws capital. good morning to you. > > good morning angie. > this is certainly one moody market. it...
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so for instance if you have a tax system like ours where speculators are taxed at a different rate than if people who work for a living or from any into a bank account in the cayman islands rather than peak united states, you have extended the rules not only to give lower taxes, tax rates to those who avail themselves of these, but distorts the economy and you wind up with more speculation. the money isn't in the cayman islands because it grows better in the sunshine. lack of sunshine, is the reason people keep their money there. >> i had a conversation with someone from the financial industry trying to make the defense about things like carried interest which isn't investment income but gets taxed, there's a lot of effort put in with cancer in return, and i couldn't help, you know what else involves a lot of munster in return? renting books. i don't get the tax break and you get the tax break. >> just to clarify the question of very interesting, when a private equity or hedge fund earns money from their customers they earn a fee, that is their income. they are allowed to defer that and
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you tax. you still spend. maybe it is time to take the medicine congressman and go over the fiscal cliff and fix the problem. >>guest: there is no fiscal cliff. there is a fiscal slope. the earth doesn't stop spinning, the sun will come up, the moon will come up and we will have to do things in john. taxes will go up and the democratic party and hopefully some responsible republicans will vote to make certain that we remove this tax cut that would take place. >>eric: no talk about responsible democrats to stop spending so were, or cut back the spending, not just cutting back the increase rate in spending but item spending cuts. >>guest: the rate of increase doesn't have anything to do with the spain people are suffering whether they are middle class or poor. we were talking about the so-called fiscal cliff, if that happens, automatically taxes are going to go up for everyone. maybe, then, someone would ask, who was it that said we shouldn't just pass the tax cuts to make certain that the working poor and the m
you tax. you still spend. maybe it is time to take the medicine congressman and go over the fiscal cliff and fix the problem. >>guest: there is no fiscal cliff. there is a fiscal slope. the earth doesn't stop spinning, the sun will come up, the moon will come up and we will have to do things in john. taxes will go up and the democratic party and hopefully some responsible republicans will vote to make certain that we remove this tax cut that would take place. >>eric: no talk about...
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adding tax hikes on dividends and capital gains. the white house wants 50 billion in new spending next year alone in a long-term deal that is supposed to be about cutting spending. >> not even $400 billion in cuts and they want to have this extra spending that is actually greater than the amount they're willing to cut. it was not a serious proposal. >> the president may have the upper hand because the fiscal cliff tops allow him to back the opposition into a corner by framing this as republicans raising taxes. >> if congress does othing, every family in america will see their income taxes automatically go up on january 1st. that is sort of like a lump of coal you get forchristmas. >> congressional democrats operating like they don't have to compromise on spending or taxes. >> elections have consequences. the president campaigned, made it very clear. made very clear that he was supporting tax cuts for the mile-class, thathe wanted the expiration of thetax cuts for the high end. >> very little progress among the inside player so ar, t
adding tax hikes on dividends and capital gains. the white house wants 50 billion in new spending next year alone in a long-term deal that is supposed to be about cutting spending. >> not even $400 billion in cuts and they want to have this extra spending that is actually greater than the amount they're willing to cut. it was not a serious proposal. >> the president may have the upper hand because the fiscal cliff tops allow him to back the opposition into a corner by framing this...
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the number one thing to understand already even if all the tax cuts were made permanent, tax revenues projected to grow by 6.2% a year. so what they're really debating about how much should it grow even faster than that in order to enable bigger government. 100% of our fiscal problem is on the spending side. obama is being very inflexible on that. republicans i'm afraid will get taken to the cleaners just what happened in 1990 when read my lips. melissa: would you rather we went over the fiscal cliff? >> compared to what obama's talking about, the fiscal cliff might be better because obama not only wants soak the rich tax increases that would automatically happen, he then wants additional taxes on top of that would be very bad for american competitiveness. we don't want to send jobs to china and india but almost as if obama wants to do that. at least if we went over the cliff, we would get the sequester, which is the budget wonk term for automatic reductions in the growth of spending. melissa: absolutely but i'm not sure republicans are giving in as much as you think. if you drill dow
the number one thing to understand already even if all the tax cuts were made permanent, tax revenues projected to grow by 6.2% a year. so what they're really debating about how much should it grow even faster than that in order to enable bigger government. 100% of our fiscal problem is on the spending side. obama is being very inflexible on that. republicans i'm afraid will get taken to the cleaners just what happened in 1990 when read my lips. melissa: would you rather we went over the fiscal...
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we can live with a little tax increase. we're loaded up here. just move on and don't screw up the economy because we'll lose a lot more money if this market crashes to a second great recession. >> chris, i think to some extent the market has priced in the notion we would go over the fiscal cliff -- >> you're wrong. no. everybody -- who you talking to? i keep talking to people and they -- who you talking to? >> i actually spoke with a source the other day who is in washington, he's an attorney, who said, listen -- >> a lawyer? >> a lawyer but speaks to a lot of folks that are wall street type who says the market could take it for a couple of weeks. >> the cake is baked and they think the intelligence of politicians is up to this challenge. >> but wall street doesn't really have a lot of faith in this process to be able to get done. they have priced in just a little bit that this could happen for a while. maybe not for months, but you wouldn't see the market necessarily crash like the next day. you'd have time. i think if they came back on january
we can live with a little tax increase. we're loaded up here. just move on and don't screw up the economy because we'll lose a lot more money if this market crashes to a second great recession. >> chris, i think to some extent the market has priced in the notion we would go over the fiscal cliff -- >> you're wrong. no. everybody -- who you talking to? i keep talking to people and they -- who you talking to? >> i actually spoke with a source the other day who is in washington,...
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here iwhat i want in tax increases. by the way i will increase in ending on infrastructure just to show starting from a point where he believes he has real strength and will stick it to the other side. what do you think of the counterproposal from republicans. is it strong or looking weaker? >> with any negotiation with the president's side t especially a few weeks ago, maybe you come out and shoot for the top, knowing you may not meet in the middle. i don't know if they will meet and...
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we can get a tax rebate up to about 3,000 u.s. dollars. >> translator: we'll buy an ecocar because it saves energy, it's not so expensive, and covered by the government's tax rebate program. >> reporter: japanese automakers plan to boost production in thailand. the country is one of the most important manufacturing hubs. they are betting economic growth and prosperity will continue to rise across. asean as the prue group moves towards creating an economic community in 2015. >> translator: southeast asia's auto industry should enjoy 7% to 8% growth similar to china over the next four or five years. compared to other countries in the region, thailand is the leader in auto production and has the soundest supply chain. >> reporter: thailand's auto industry has a goal of producing 3 million cars a year within the next five years. even after the flux of 2011. the country remains in the driving seat of the fast-growing auto market. busaba sivasaboom, nhk world, bangkok. >> that wraps up our bulletin. i'm patchari raksawong in bangkok. >>
we can get a tax rebate up to about 3,000 u.s. dollars. >> translator: we'll buy an ecocar because it saves energy, it's not so expensive, and covered by the government's tax rebate program. >> reporter: japanese automakers plan to boost production in thailand. the country is one of the most important manufacturing hubs. they are betting economic growth and prosperity will continue to rise across. asean as the prue group moves towards creating an economic community in 2015. >>...
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it is supported by the payroll taxes. that workers and their employers pay. >> you have seen, surveys that show the direct we're going, we -- the direction we're going we have moved its trouble date up, compared to other programs, that is prestine, my only point is why not put it out there, why not put out medicare, and medicaid and everything, and for republican defense, everything, and rather than pick and choose. >> whether defense, medicare, medicaid, those are out of general revenues, they are in a defendant category. social security, does nida, just need adjustments, it should not be part of solves will deficit. neil: i think what is intrinsic. is what you are not saying. that we're missing an opportunity to address the overall rate of money coming in and money going out. if you want to leave social security alone, and just look at all of other entitlements and big spending and hear, they say focus it has to be on taxes, i'm not here is a they don't raise taxes on the rich. the elects do have consequences that is on
it is supported by the payroll taxes. that workers and their employers pay. >> you have seen, surveys that show the direct we're going, we -- the direction we're going we have moved its trouble date up, compared to other programs, that is prestine, my only point is why not put it out there, why not put out medicare, and medicaid and everything, and for republican defense, everything, and rather than pick and choose. >> whether defense, medicare, medicaid, those are out of general...
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and dividend taxes are not a rich tax. nor a capital gains. you're talking about pension funds, 401(k) plans, invest in companies that pay dividends. if you're expecting a dividend tax to go from 15% to 44% that, completely removes the opportunity or the incentive to buy dividend paying companies. and that's going to hurt not just the rich. that's going to hurt everybody if we see that. that's very dangerous, and it would create a massive selloff. >> one of the things that the president has done, going to congress and said, going out and encouraging people to tweet and post on facebook my 2k, meaning the $2,000 they would get in the extended tax breaks for the middle class. but he is also meeting privately with ceos. he has a bad relationship with wall street and with corporate america generally. he has presented much of this plan. what's the feedback he's getting? >> there will be a big recession if you don't get behind him. i'm finding many republican ceos -- by the way, most ceos are republican. they are on board. they are not on board with
and dividend taxes are not a rich tax. nor a capital gains. you're talking about pension funds, 401(k) plans, invest in companies that pay dividends. if you're expecting a dividend tax to go from 15% to 44% that, completely removes the opportunity or the incentive to buy dividend paying companies. and that's going to hurt not just the rich. that's going to hurt everybody if we see that. that's very dangerous, and it would create a massive selloff. >> one of the things that the president...
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as corporations offer dividends now to avoid potential taxes next year, larry ellison from oracle will get $198 million from a special dividend. should investors buy or sell oracle? > > you see a lot of people chasing into these special dividend stocks. you see costco, dillard's, some of the casino stocks, people chasing in to try to get that special dividend. i don't really think it's a play. i am not trading it. > > i like this stock, but i think it is a bit ridiculous for him to save $50 million when he is worth $41 billion- > > top 10 in the world, i think. > > $41 billion! that is a little bit ridiculous. but, the stock has been trading in a range between $30 and $33 in july, looking like it wants to break out to these recent highs at $36. so a $29 call for july of next year- > > but you're not going to get the dividend. > > -is going to cost you- > > but you're not going to get the special dividend. > > -$4. the dividend has nothing to do with it. i like the stock, and i like the fact that we have been trading sideways for the last six months. > round number two: price power. cof
as corporations offer dividends now to avoid potential taxes next year, larry ellison from oracle will get $198 million from a special dividend. should investors buy or sell oracle? > > you see a lot of people chasing into these special dividend stocks. you see costco, dillard's, some of the casino stocks, people chasing in to try to get that special dividend. i don't really think it's a play. i am not trading it. > > i like this stock, but i think it is a bit ridiculous for him to...
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>> well, don't tax you, don't tax me, tax the guy behind the tree. >> paul: russell long, former late senator. >> exactly. and what you see here are very wealthy people who can, you know, engineer ways to avoid taxes, meanwhile, what he's-- the medicine he's suggesting for people who are starting to do better, people who say, make $200,000, maybe working their whole life. they're the ones who are going to get hit with the obama taxes and really, i mean, you look at that and you think a normal human being with, you know, would be ashamed of that lack of intellectual honesty, should be. >> it's fascinating economic dri that costco is borrowing the money to pay this dividend. now, usually when companies pay dividends, it's out of earnings, right? >> yes, retained earnings, in this case, they're borrowing, taking on more debt, not to invest in the business in the future growth, but for a one-time equity pay out. >> and to worry about interest rates are low thanks to ben bernanke. >>, but this shows the tax rates combined with very low bore heing costs and instead of investing in growth, y
>> well, don't tax you, don't tax me, tax the guy behind the tree. >> paul: russell long, former late senator. >> exactly. and what you see here are very wealthy people who can, you know, engineer ways to avoid taxes, meanwhile, what he's-- the medicine he's suggesting for people who are starting to do better, people who say, make $200,000, maybe working their whole life. they're the ones who are going to get hit with the obama taxes and really, i mean, you look at that and...
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and determined to raise taxes on the rich. it's one thing during the campaign he was specific and consistent on. it seems to me like they are even more upset about what they see his like of specificity on entitlements. let's play what we heard from his chief negotiator, tim geithner yesterday. >> we can't figure out what they need. they have to tell us. then we have to take a look at it and see if it makes sense for the american public. >> when will we see people putting something on the table or is that not going to happen until like the 30th, 31st of the month? >> well, what i would say is in the white house's initial offer they did offer $400 billion in medicare cuts. and that is something that i think the republicans should actually like as a starting point because clearly the white house knows that they are going to have to go up from there. and bob corker the senator from tennessee who was also on "meet the press" yesterday has proposed some legislation that instead cuts $641 million out of medicare. we'll see some scale
and determined to raise taxes on the rich. it's one thing during the campaign he was specific and consistent on. it seems to me like they are even more upset about what they see his like of specificity on entitlements. let's play what we heard from his chief negotiator, tim geithner yesterday. >> we can't figure out what they need. they have to tell us. then we have to take a look at it and see if it makes sense for the american public. >> when will we see people putting something...
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businesses and investors are unsure about what their tax burdens will be like this year. the impact that the fiscal cliff could have on the economy will go up across the board. >> as we get closer and closer to the end of the year i think the uneasiness will continue and the worry we might not see a resolution is going to effect our market. >> it has an impact or hiring as well. physical we go over the cliff the long-term benefits will in fact expire at the end of the year. as the president visited a family in virginia to talk about tax hikes on the wealthy there were few talks on if is clal cliff talks. >> i am not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rates from going up for folks at the top two percent. >> this isn't about getting a handle on debt for him it's about spending more than he already has. >> as far as the unp employment numbers are concerned today there is little doubt that super storm sandy had an impact on those. the expectation is that it dissipated a great degree. back to you guys. >>> doug luzader in washington, thank you. >> it is ti
businesses and investors are unsure about what their tax burdens will be like this year. the impact that the fiscal cliff could have on the economy will go up across the board. >> as we get closer and closer to the end of the year i think the uneasiness will continue and the worry we might not see a resolution is going to effect our market. >> it has an impact or hiring as well. physical we go over the cliff the long-term benefits will in fact expire at the end of the year. as the...
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why double tax capital? anyway, thank you, danielle hughes, we appreciate it. >>> there is a major stir tonight over a cartoon narrated by actor ed asner. check it out. >> over time, rich people decided they weren't rich enough, so they came up with ways to get richer. the first way was to tax cuts. they said why should i care about other nonrich people? >> all right, this here is just an attack on free enterprise. shame on mr. asner, who's a good actor. it's an attack on success. it's an attack on capital itch. it's also an attack on good taste, although we didn't show the most vulgar part. where does a successful actor like this get off saying this kind of thing? what does he know about capitalism anyway as he makes his bucks, and by the way, this entire cartoon was sponsored by the teachers union. what a shocking surprise there. they, too, higher taxes on the rich, knock down free market capitalism, go up against free enterprise. you know, when is this left wing stuff going to end? i guess the answer is n
why double tax capital? anyway, thank you, danielle hughes, we appreciate it. >>> there is a major stir tonight over a cartoon narrated by actor ed asner. check it out. >> over time, rich people decided they weren't rich enough, so they came up with ways to get richer. the first way was to tax cuts. they said why should i care about other nonrich people? >> all right, this here is just an attack on free enterprise. shame on mr. asner, who's a good actor. it's an attack on...
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pays a lot of money in payroll taxes and sales taxes and state and local taxes and property taxes. it adds up even if they're not paying income tax. host: how would you compare the current talks to july 2011 and the debt limit, fiscal cliff, sequestration -- guest: the debt limit talks definitely set the stage for this. they were not completely without value. i get the sense it is a lot more serious now. it has almost been like a year- and-a-half long negotiation. with the real deadline being the expiration of the bush tax cuts at the end of this year. to some extent, now they're getting to the real deadline and it is more serious. host: have you written one of the, if we go over the cliff, this is what happens-type article? guest: yes. people would probably start feeling it in their paychecks pretty quickly. never mind what it means to the broader economy. it will hit. it will hurt a lot of people. if we did not change the law and it went one month, two months, three months, it could lead to another recession because there be such a sharp drop in people's incomes and it would be s
pays a lot of money in payroll taxes and sales taxes and state and local taxes and property taxes. it adds up even if they're not paying income tax. host: how would you compare the current talks to july 2011 and the debt limit, fiscal cliff, sequestration -- guest: the debt limit talks definitely set the stage for this. they were not completely without value. i get the sense it is a lot more serious now. it has almost been like a year- and-a-half long negotiation. with the real deadline being...
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yes, i raise tax rates on the rich or no will not. >> you don't raise tax rates which. stuart: you would love no. and started to push like this. you wouldn't know. >> in not addressing the problem stuart: even though it wishes us over the cliff. >> i would vote no because it does not address the problem. the president is the driver in shea. stuart: i'm sorry. i hate to be like this. i'm being obnoxious i know it, but he would vote no . i will not vote for higher tax rates, even if you knew for absolute certainty that pushes aside with a cleft. >> yes. i would vote no for higher tax rates because our children and grandchildren deserve better. stuart: they agree. >> this is a generational issue. stuart: still obnoxious. we use in any way compromise? for example, would you vote yes on the tax rate increase to 37% on upper income murders to wrap up 39, 37. would you vote yes on that? >> that is not something on the table. we haven't seen is a willingness to address spending, and you have to be able to cut spending. you have to be able to reform the way these entitlement pro
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we talk about the state capital which was tax -- 74% tax exempt. a lot of it was a result of the state taking over a large percentage of our city. a lot of it was non for profits. i have had a good working relationship with people in the state governments. it is good to have them close. i can see what they're doing and to buy and put and see what i can do for the people of the city. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] host: we turn our attention to unemployment insurance and how it can be impacted. joining us for the discussion is josh . caller: it is a combination of a federal and state program. it usually lasts -- it can be extended up to 93 weeks. it is the extension be on the six month time frame we're talking about as part of the fiscal cliff tops. host: that is what might be caught -- cut? guest: that is what automatically expires. president obama has said as part of the deal i want to make, the benefits should continue. republicans have not taken a firm stand. we ha
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a higher tax next year, a higher tax on dividends is confidently expected. you avoid that if you get the dividend this year. 175 companies doing just that. all right, let's get at it, shall we. president obama's first offer fiscal cliff, higher taxes, new spending and power over the debt spending. and offered by tim geithner who had tax problems in the past and today president obama is it at a toy factory campaigning for new taxes on the rich. and joining us is julia. >> hi. stuart: how are you. >> i'm great. stuart: i can't believe that you, as a regular american, want to do this to america, do you? >> i think it's because-- i don't think that this is exactly what what's going to happen. stuart: you don't think that the president will actually do this. >> no, no, i think the president has learned to negotiate. what the president would do, he would start with sort of half a loaf and negotiate and give the republicans about 75% of what they wanted. i think he's finally understood if you want to actually get to at least halfway, you have to start at extremes a
a higher tax next year, a higher tax on dividends is confidently expected. you avoid that if you get the dividend this year. 175 companies doing just that. all right, let's get at it, shall we. president obama's first offer fiscal cliff, higher taxes, new spending and power over the debt spending. and offered by tim geithner who had tax problems in the past and today president obama is it at a toy factory campaigning for new taxes on the rich. and joining us is julia. >> hi. stuart: how...
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tax cuts for the top 2%. and they are like here is our offer. if you are going to make a deal at least deal something somebody actually wants. >> yeah. >> stephanie: serious plan. they are like they won the election. >> it is totally farfetched and they are like i don't understand why he doesn't want it. >> stephanie: all right. here she is, jacki schechner in the current news. >> good morning. we already know that ashley judd can show a much wider range of emotion that some. she has been taking steps to assess her options when it comes to running for office. she is doing opposition research on herself to see where she might be most vulnerable. mcconnell will be running for his sixth term another option is to run against senator rand powell in 2016. there is a briefings tomorrow on the september 11th attack on our console consoleate attack in benghazi they the talking points were watered down by the cia. it said the notes did contain reference to al-qaeda but the cia took it off. elizabeth warren has won a sp
tax cuts for the top 2%. and they are like here is our offer. if you are going to make a deal at least deal something somebody actually wants. >> yeah. >> stephanie: serious plan. they are like they won the election. >> it is totally farfetched and they are like i don't understand why he doesn't want it. >> stephanie: all right. here she is, jacki schechner in the current news. >> good morning. we already know that ashley judd can show a much wider range of emotion...
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then personal income taxes. then taxes on consumption, and taxes on property. most of these find that taxes on consumption -- the closest thing we have on the federal level is the payroll tax -- would have no direct tax on consumption like every other country in the oecd. that is a consumption tax. many economists and they oecd find that those taxes have no relationship with economic growth. it is the taxes it -- it is not the taxes on consumption that hard economic growth. host: this is part of a continuing series on "washington journal" focusing on a fiscal cliff. our conversation has broadened. to bring it back to the payroll tax cut and remind you it was enacted in december of 2010, designed to temporarily boost the economy and reduce the tax to% from 6.2% to 4.2% and increased take-home pay about an average of $1,000 to $1,800 per worker. it expires at the end of the year, rates will revert back to 6.2%. if you make $35,000 or so, that will be an extra $700 in taxes. the $2,000, an extra thousand dollars. 75,000, $1,500. finally, $110,000, the upper limit
then personal income taxes. then taxes on consumption, and taxes on property. most of these find that taxes on consumption -- the closest thing we have on the federal level is the payroll tax -- would have no direct tax on consumption like every other country in the oecd. that is a consumption tax. many economists and they oecd find that those taxes have no relationship with economic growth. it is the taxes it -- it is not the taxes on consumption that hard economic growth. host: this is part...
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as i just indicated, it includes a $2 trillion tax increase over ten years, the biggest real-dollar tax increase in u.s. history. it increases taxes on nearly one million small businesses in the middle of a jobs crisis. according to ernst & young, this type of rate hike would cause more than 700,000 americans to lose their jobs. it raises taxes on investment income, harming economic growth even more. it includes tens of billions of dollars in more washington spending in a deal supposedly to cut the deficit. and most outrageous of all, it gives the president of the united states unilateral power to raise the limit on the federal credit card, the so-called debt ceiling, whenever he wants or as much as he wants. and while i'm flattered the administration has taken to calling this the -- quote -- "mcconnell provision" they seemed to have forgotten how this worked in the budget control act. we gave the president the authority then to request a debt ceiling increase, but that was only after the white house agreed to $2 trillion in cuts to washington spending and agreed to be bound by the timi
as i just indicated, it includes a $2 trillion tax increase over ten years, the biggest real-dollar tax increase in u.s. history. it increases taxes on nearly one million small businesses in the middle of a jobs crisis. according to ernst & young, this type of rate hike would cause more than 700,000 americans to lose their jobs. it raises taxes on investment income, harming economic growth even more. it includes tens of billions of dollars in more washington spending in a deal supposedly to...
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tax reform. it would be in the tax reform process that there would generate -- and they would generate $800 million -- $800 billion in revenue. and they say the $800 billion could be raised without raising tax rates, and this is something that is in dispute with the white house. the white house said there would be no deal unless republicans agreed to increase tax rates on the wall the next year. >> what do the republicans say about the debt limit, sequestration, automatic spending cuts, and changes to entitlement programs? >> that was not addressed. the white house offered to make permanent the changes. republicans are not proposing to raise the debt limit at all. but if you ask their aides, they told us that the speaker would be open to increasing the debt limit, but he is sticking by his role that any increase must be accompanied by cuts and/or reforms. it could be on the table. entitlements, they are not laying out this was a big changes to medicare and medicaid. what they are saying is they w
tax reform. it would be in the tax reform process that there would generate -- and they would generate $800 million -- $800 billion in revenue. and they say the $800 billion could be raised without raising tax rates, and this is something that is in dispute with the white house. the white house said there would be no deal unless republicans agreed to increase tax rates on the wall the next year. >> what do the republicans say about the debt limit, sequestration, automatic spending cuts,...
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tax rate which is now 35%. but i do think that you know, some republicans have floated the idea perhaps of being okay with races tax on his investment income. i think the president in his past budget definitely talked about that. and i think that in a way although so much of the focus is on raising the marginal tax rates, you know, the way that we typically think of individual income be taxed marginal tax rates and races the tacks on those is really an effective way to tax the wealthy. because the well identity disproportionately benefit from those type of low rates. >> jennifer: for sure. and, of course, we know that once they go over the fiscal cliff and those that -- that cap cal gains rate goes back to the clinton era it will be a 20% rate anyway. one way or another it's going to up. that's all i am saying. nancy took cook, thank you so much from the national journal thank you for join is us inside the war room. coming up, the car room is is not in the prediction business but we hear there is good money in
tax rate which is now 35%. but i do think that you know, some republicans have floated the idea perhaps of being okay with races tax on his investment income. i think the president in his past budget definitely talked about that. and i think that in a way although so much of the focus is on raising the marginal tax rates, you know, the way that we typically think of individual income be taxed marginal tax rates and races the tacks on those is really an effective way to tax the wealthy. because...
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i am a flat tax guy. what i don't get is why the united states wants to imitate the mistakes of western europe, jim pethokoukis. that's what i don't get. you get the last word. >> i think it's stunning and i hope we learn from yoour mistak as quickly as they did in great britain. >>> who needs to wait for a recession? our next guest says we may already be in one and it started way back in july. think about that. recession last july. stay with us. he'll defend his position. r ] when this hotel added aflac to provide a better benefits package... oahhh! [ male announcer ] it made a big splash with the employees. [ duck yelling ] [ male announcer ] find out more at... [ duck ] aflac! [ male announcer ] ...forbusiness.com. ♪ ha ha! it's easy to follow the progress you're making toward all your financial goals. a quick glance, and you can see if you're on track. when the conversation turns to knowing where you stand, turn to us. wells fargo advisors. >>> we've got some more breaking news for you. the michigan
i am a flat tax guy. what i don't get is why the united states wants to imitate the mistakes of western europe, jim pethokoukis. that's what i don't get. you get the last word. >> i think it's stunning and i hope we learn from yoour mistak as quickly as they did in great britain. >>> who needs to wait for a recession? our next guest says we may already be in one and it started way back in july. think about that. recession last july. stay with us. he'll defend his position. r ]...
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credits and tax inclusions in a major tax reform package. the gang of six that i was a part of, still a part of, followed that recommendation. we think you ought to eliminate all of that. that will generate about $1.2 trillion in revenue. not new taxes. revenue. then you decide whether you're going to add the mortgage interest deduction, charitable deduction, other things back in there. so the question is, what do you do with that revenue that's been generated? we owe $16 trillion. i think that you got to pay part of that revenue toward that debt just like every single american that owns a home pays part of their monthly revenue toward their mortgage debt. it's exactly the same thing. the problem that grover and i have, he says if you do that, that's a tax increase, because the rest of it is going to go to lowering tax rates, and that's not 100% going to lowering tax rates. >> sean: if you're talking about $1.1 trillion or $1.2 trillion in revenue, that's raising taxes. people will pay more. when people pay more -- >> no. >> sean: they're no
credits and tax inclusions in a major tax reform package. the gang of six that i was a part of, still a part of, followed that recommendation. we think you ought to eliminate all of that. that will generate about $1.2 trillion in revenue. not new taxes. revenue. then you decide whether you're going to add the mortgage interest deduction, charitable deduction, other things back in there. so the question is, what do you do with that revenue that's been generated? we owe $16 trillion. i think that...
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taxes? guest: i don't think so. i think keeping tax rate with a r is the real question. you can increase revenue without increasing tax rates. honestly, just a more efficient system redistributing investments toward things that generate economic growth. that is something that paul ryan has been a leading advocate of. yeah, i think this is a really smart and good proposal by the speaker, and i was very pleased to see every republican sign off on it. it was not just his name. i hope the white house understands there is unity at the republican leadership table. host: here is a copy of the letter sent to the white house with the signatures of the leadership team including paul ryan. a lot of our callers have talked about the lack of details in this proposal then back which loopholes or deductions do you get rid of? guest: there is an interesting debate and discussion on that. that is for the negotiators. the easiest way to do it would be to cap the dollar amount and let the individual pick and c
taxes? guest: i don't think so. i think keeping tax rate with a r is the real question. you can increase revenue without increasing tax rates. honestly, just a more efficient system redistributing investments toward things that generate economic growth. that is something that paul ryan has been a leading advocate of. yeah, i think this is a really smart and good proposal by the speaker, and i was very pleased to see every republican sign off on it. it was not just his name. i hope the white...
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anything above $2,500 will be taxed and the rest will be taxed. they are going to be playing $10,000, $12,000 more per year taxable rate to get their kids per school. >> and they're always talking about how the republicans want to destroy the study for autism. but here it is black and white in the obama. we appreciate it. it's great to see you. >> thanks for having me. >> now to the lottery frenzy. there's already a winner in this game. the government. not good. we're going to explain when "the kudlow report" comes right back. >>> if everything on the fiscal side caves, what incentive is there for tax reform in 20 13? >> ups believes congress does need to move very quickly to get this done. >> there are going to be many moments when it seems like there's a deal and then there are people who fight the deal, which is why we have been featuring the notion of rising above. >> all sides could lose if an agreement isn't arrived upon. music is a universal language. but when i was in an accident... i was worried the health care system spoke a language all
anything above $2,500 will be taxed and the rest will be taxed. they are going to be playing $10,000, $12,000 more per year taxable rate to get their kids per school. >> and they're always talking about how the republicans want to destroy the study for autism. but here it is black and white in the obama. we appreciate it. it's great to see you. >> thanks for having me. >> now to the lottery frenzy. there's already a winner in this game. the government. not good. we're going to...
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the tax man is coming and he wants to tax everything. there's a long list of everything where the left wants to raise the tax take as of now, monday morning, centers on tax hikes, not spending cuts and certainly not entitlement reform. first to secretary geithner to him and the president, it's all about pushing the republicans to accept tax hikes. >> you know, i can't promise that. that's a decision that lies in the hands of republicans that are now opposing increase in tax rates. if they recognize the reality that we can't afford to extend those tax rates then we have the basis for an agreement for the american people. stuart: other voices on the left are chiming in with tax suggestions and ralph nader says he wants a tax on every single financial transaction including stock trades and he calls it a speculation tax. an editorial in the washington post today calls for an end or at least limits on the deductible for charitable deductions. overwhelmingly the deduction benefits of the wealthy and the rest of the country has to make up the g
the tax man is coming and he wants to tax everything. there's a long list of everything where the left wants to raise the tax take as of now, monday morning, centers on tax hikes, not spending cuts and certainly not entitlement reform. first to secretary geithner to him and the president, it's all about pushing the republicans to accept tax hikes. >> you know, i can't promise that. that's a decision that lies in the hands of republicans that are now opposing increase in tax rates. if they...
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tax cuts. are they willing to limit unemployment insurance, give up infrastructure spending, which is something the president has been talking about from the beginning, payroll tax cut. what's the white house plan here? >> well, alan simpson in addition to being an excellent dancer is a very shrewd political analyst. >> very hip, alan simpson. >> very, very, very good dancer recently. but, look, i think people talk in terms of political advantage and clearly the president is going to gain more political advantage from going off the cliff than the republicans are going to. that's where the polls are showing. that's clearly where there is going. that doesn't mean it's a good idea for the country or economically. the country is are they looking at their own political interests or do they actually want to make sure the economy stays out of recession here. this is a very dangerous game that we're playing with over the next four weeks. >> i want to bring in congressman tom price, a republican from ge
tax cuts. are they willing to limit unemployment insurance, give up infrastructure spending, which is something the president has been talking about from the beginning, payroll tax cut. what's the white house plan here? >> well, alan simpson in addition to being an excellent dancer is a very shrewd political analyst. >> very hip, alan simpson. >> very, very, very good dancer recently. but, look, i think people talk in terms of political advantage and clearly the president is...
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the individual tax credit and they also pay the taxes themselves. like most working americans that have a magical withholding they see the tax dollars. small-business people write that check and they see every last dime of it. the tax collectors for the federal government collect all of those from employees and send that in as well. they are the only people that really see, touch, feel, implement virtually every aspect of the tax code and that's one of the reason it's very high in their mind and agenda. >> one thing about the structurally unemployed is that there may be more hope for them this time. we've had this before. we had it especially in the 1970's. and what happened then was not good. people lost 30 to 40% of their income when we looked at them five years later they lost most if not all of their benefits, and that's pretty much where they stayed. or they left the labour market but that was also smaller numbers for older people. this time there is some hope that depth of the recession in manufacturing in a sense and in construction because o
the individual tax credit and they also pay the taxes themselves. like most working americans that have a magical withholding they see the tax dollars. small-business people write that check and they see every last dime of it. the tax collectors for the federal government collect all of those from employees and send that in as well. they are the only people that really see, touch, feel, implement virtually every aspect of the tax code and that's one of the reason it's very high in their mind...
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so, there -- don't republicans have a gripe that he is kind of skewed in favor of taxes, taxes, taxes? >> i'm not going to play a pun it hire, our purpose in coming to washington a group of three democrats and three republican governors to make sure that perspective of the governors is heard. we you know meeting with the president today was very productive. he -- >> how? how it was productive? what did he agree to? >> look, we didn't come to support his plan or the republican plan. i think -- >> why did the come? why? >> we came because as these conversations are going on. we want to make sure that perspective of the governors is heard, the fact that states are partners with federal government across a whole range of programs, and answer is not just a shift of cost to state, you don't -- just because you move money off federal budget does not mean you are safe figure money is picked up by the state. we talk about importance of flexibility in terms of some state programs. and president was open to that. neil: you run one of the most i guess for lack of a better term, one of the more in
so, there -- don't republicans have a gripe that he is kind of skewed in favor of taxes, taxes, taxes? >> i'm not going to play a pun it hire, our purpose in coming to washington a group of three democrats and three republican governors to make sure that perspective of the governors is heard. we you know meeting with the president today was very productive. he -- >> how? how it was productive? what did he agree to? >> look, we didn't come to support his plan or the republican...
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there is no net rising taxes today. any taxes increased are offset by taxes. mr. speaker, in last year's autumn statement, we maintained the same piece for consolidation beyond the current spending in 2015 and 2016 and 2017. in this year's autumn statement, we extended the consolidation program for the year is 2017. the opr project as that as a result, the share of national income spent by the state will fall from almost 40% of gdp in 2009 and 2010, to 39.9% 52018. the document shows total management expenditure will continue to fall and will now people are willing to go and 2018 and if it had been held flat in real time. no decisions to cut this is ever easy. those who said we would have higher taxes or higher borrowing or both. i also provide further details of the consolidation plans for 2015 and 2016, last year at this parliament. as the two years ago that the correct balance for the fiscal consolidation between spending and tax should be 80-20. i can announce that we will almost be exactly able to deliver on that mix. total spending will fall in the final yea
there is no net rising taxes today. any taxes increased are offset by taxes. mr. speaker, in last year's autumn statement, we maintained the same piece for consolidation beyond the current spending in 2015 and 2016 and 2017. in this year's autumn statement, we extended the consolidation program for the year is 2017. the opr project as that as a result, the share of national income spent by the state will fall from almost 40% of gdp in 2009 and 2010, to 39.9% 52018. the document shows total...
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you, don't tax me coming and you will find that out. estimate on the second piece and then on the second piece. the first piece, the danger with putting the goals in the savings and cuttings and taxes in its regular order i'm afraid the regular order won't produce the results. to build another fiscal what on pressure which puts us right back where we are or have a default mechanism which the policy set aside that was sides don't like about media is a lot of bad alternatives for both. it's important for people to understand in the current lull this is a fact. if the converse packed its bags right now and went away at the end of the tenure period the deficit to gdp ratio would be under 1%. succumbing you would solve the deficit problem. estimate under 1%? the percentage of your debt as the deficit to the gdp. the deficit to gdp. a deficit to gdp. now, we don't want to get there that we. the same way we don't want to go over the fiscal cliff. in other words, the fiscal cliff is a big austerity. we get $7 trillion in the deficit reduction o
you, don't tax me coming and you will find that out. estimate on the second piece and then on the second piece. the first piece, the danger with putting the goals in the savings and cuttings and taxes in its regular order i'm afraid the regular order won't produce the results. to build another fiscal what on pressure which puts us right back where we are or have a default mechanism which the policy set aside that was sides don't like about media is a lot of bad alternatives for both. it's...
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second, state and local taxes paid. that's just a tax shift. instead of raising taxes on you by simply raising them on you, we raise them on you by making our state and local tax bill higher. it'll pound on high tax cities on states which means it'll hit the cities and states by making them less attractive places for people to live. there a political veilance here too. all ten of the highest tax states wept for president obama in 2012 and eight of the lowest tax states were for romney. that would be a particularly tough tax for blue states. them. charitable contributions. this is the most sensitive to tax incentives. you have to live somewhere, you need a home and it is hard it move it a new state because taxes went up. you don't need to give to charity. people give to charity because they want to and also, let's be real, because the government encourages through the tax code. it is reported in bloomberg in 2009 households with incomes of more than $200,000 claimed almost $60 billion in charitable deductions or 20% of total charitable giving in
second, state and local taxes paid. that's just a tax shift. instead of raising taxes on you by simply raising them on you, we raise them on you by making our state and local tax bill higher. it'll pound on high tax cities on states which means it'll hit the cities and states by making them less attractive places for people to live. there a political veilance here too. all ten of the highest tax states wept for president obama in 2012 and eight of the lowest tax states were for romney. that...
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lou: $6 billion in taxes? >> spending reductions and tax increases. the economy can't handle that. without a doubt, head into recession if we're over the cliff. lou: now, are you in agreement? >> i am, carl's absolely right, nevertheless, the markets have effectively been yawning. equity markets, go higher, corporate credit market improves, commodit prices rising, and the ten-year treasury yield is dipping to new lows. i can't figure this out. everybody seems to -- lou: i know -- >> they are in a mood, and that worries me. somebody has to be wrong, and big time. >> yawning until they don't. that's the concern. lou: i know this would be stunning and alarming to economists who would never contemplate themselves being wrong on this, but is this some possibility that everyone is wrong about this? that these are actually men and women of good wl in th parties who are beginning to come together in one great warm embrace sometime before christmas day and give the nation such a great boost of spirit of od will and reach agreement here? >> i don't know if we're going to see that sense of br
lou: $6 billion in taxes? >> spending reductions and tax increases. the economy can't handle that. without a doubt, head into recession if we're over the cliff. lou: now, are you in agreement? >> i am, carl's absolely right, nevertheless, the markets have effectively been yawning. equity markets, go higher, corporate credit market improves, commodit prices rising, and the ten-year treasury yield is dipping to new lows. i can't figure this out. everybody seems to -- lou: i know --...
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tall tax rates will go up. we will then enact tax cuts for 98%. we will get congratulations from the american people. >> keeping and adding back tax cut for those above $250,000, 9 #% of income would add $37 trillion in ten years and would only save $800 billion or so from raising rates on higher incomes. democrats complain the republicans didn't pay for bush tax cut and no one on the democratic side is talking about finding the off-setting savings now to extend them. several democrats contemplated going over the cliff in recent days. perhaps in hopes of gaining leverage. >> if the republicans don't agree with that, we reach a point where all the tax cuts expire and we start over next year. >> form every republican senate aide said it would be hard to blame one party. >> i think they realize that both sides will be culpable if we go over cliff. >> house speaker john boehner says going over the cliff is far too dangerous to the economy. nevertheless, even treasury secretary geithner suggested on fox news sunday that republicans might need more time
tall tax rates will go up. we will then enact tax cuts for 98%. we will get congratulations from the american people. >> keeping and adding back tax cut for those above $250,000, 9 #% of income would add $37 trillion in ten years and would only save $800 billion or so from raising rates on higher incomes. democrats complain the republicans didn't pay for bush tax cut and no one on the democratic side is talking about finding the off-setting savings now to extend them. several democrats...
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the tax cuts entime entitlement cuts. >> i'm not sure that they won't fold on the tax cuts. once again you have to step back from the observation of what's going on in washington now, and remember we're fighting whether or not the top marginal rates should be in the low 30s or not. we should roll back the reagan tax cut but i don't believe in miracles. >> eliot: charles, what you're say something critically important. we're all in a way falling prey to this issue as if they're big issues when they're not. the fact that the rate would go from 35 to 39.6, it used to be in the 90s and 70s and 60s, and capital gains will be taxed at below the rate of ordinary income. we're dealing with the most minimal of shifts and changes yet we're being sucked into the notion that this is dramatic. it's not. >> you divided the republicans in three separate camps. i would say that the difference between the theological theocrats and the tee tea party is minimal. to a certain extent the policies that plays out with the theocrats is economics. four republicans have become identity politics. they
the tax cuts entime entitlement cuts. >> i'm not sure that they won't fold on the tax cuts. once again you have to step back from the observation of what's going on in washington now, and remember we're fighting whether or not the top marginal rates should be in the low 30s or not. we should roll back the reagan tax cut but i don't believe in miracles. >> eliot: charles, what you're say something critically important. we're all in a way falling prey to this issue as if they're big...
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still fluctuating between gains and losses as president barack obama held his ground about raising taxes for the highest income americans and it's the anticipations who ground to those tools that leave the european stocks flat in the cheese day session that says investors stay on the fence even while you side stateside as debates continue between democrats and republicans on that so-called fiscal cliff the common currency is still climbing steadily really ever since that greek buyback deal which calls the initial optimism and it just continued on from there whereas the russian ruble that this is not finished up today was stronger against the dollar and you can see against the euro back. here in moscow than the markets they finished up in negative territory today as you can see under a percent of the arts yes and the my sex the fact that oil prices are going south isn't really help me out not as investors always keep a close eye on those here in moscow. moving on then dreams of becoming the next james bond winning formula one or even designing your own fashion line may be on a typical asp
still fluctuating between gains and losses as president barack obama held his ground about raising taxes for the highest income americans and it's the anticipations who ground to those tools that leave the european stocks flat in the cheese day session that says investors stay on the fence even while you side stateside as debates continue between democrats and republicans on that so-called fiscal cliff the common currency is still climbing steadily really ever since that greek buyback deal...
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they are heaping on tax on top of tax to finance obamacare. i do not see this is social engineering. when the republicans say they are going to hold the line on raising rates? they are going to keep the regular rates where they are, we still have this surtax on the rates. the payroll tax goes up. we appreciate it. we will get you back soon. january 1st, is when it begins folks. anyway, will president obama have the courage to end the strike at two california ports that are scrare crippling the w economy? that is next up. if we want to improve our schools... ... what should we invest in? maybe new buildings? what about updated equipment? they can help, but recent research shows... ... nothing transforms schools like investing in advanced teacher education. let's build a strong foundation. let's invest in our teachers so they can inspire our students. let's solve this. >>> cnbc's jane wells joins us now with the latest. >> they say it is not about the money. federal mediate or has been hir. ships are backing up. companies like home depot say it
they are heaping on tax on top of tax to finance obamacare. i do not see this is social engineering. when the republicans say they are going to hold the line on raising rates? they are going to keep the regular rates where they are, we still have this surtax on the rates. the payroll tax goes up. we appreciate it. we will get you back soon. january 1st, is when it begins folks. anyway, will president obama have the courage to end the strike at two california ports that are scrare crippling the...
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lauren is the fiscal cliff we hear so much about we hear the comings and goings of obama and boehner on tax policy as though this was the issue that was going to solve the u.s. economy's problems or the u.s. government's budget deficit problems and does it i mean is really such a small part of the iceberg. of economic crisis that this country has been dealing with for the past four years and lo and behold when you talk to people that have been in the game for a while like the former republican strategist has been that we spoke to they say no it's very minimally addressing the problems of the u.s. and to put that in even broader scope our guest kevin phillips his recent book is about seven hundred seventy five so he just finished a book on the american revolution many more economic factors playing a role there than what we maybe are taught in grade school here in the u.s. so we looked at what the lessons are today looking at the. current economic problems and monetary problems and got his perspective a perspective he says that politicians are not likely to have he says they don't read histor
lauren is the fiscal cliff we hear so much about we hear the comings and goings of obama and boehner on tax policy as though this was the issue that was going to solve the u.s. economy's problems or the u.s. government's budget deficit problems and does it i mean is really such a small part of the iceberg. of economic crisis that this country has been dealing with for the past four years and lo and behold when you talk to people that have been in the game for a while like the former republican...
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now in retrospect i could have told barack obama in 2009 if you had a third of the package as tax cuts then republicans who are traditionally more comfortable with tax cuts may just pocket that and attack to other components of the program. that is exactly right. it appears that the president's team has finally learned that lesson, which is very reassuring. i'm going to bring in michael shure, our epic political correspondent. they're even running ads now or it seems like ads campaign ads even though the campaign is over. let me show you one of them, and then get your reaction. [ ♪ music ♪ ] >> the polling is with the president. the clear mandate of this election was that the majority of americans agreed with president obama's vision of one of the ways to fix the fiscal cliff had to be to put new revenues and raise the tax rates of the wealthiest americans. [ ♪ music ♪ ] >> cenk: so taking this case to the american people fighting strong, making his own case which he we've been asking him to do for four straight years. my reaction was this. >> flabbergasted. [ laughing ] >> cen
now in retrospect i could have told barack obama in 2009 if you had a third of the package as tax cuts then republicans who are traditionally more comfortable with tax cuts may just pocket that and attack to other components of the program. that is exactly right. it appears that the president's team has finally learned that lesson, which is very reassuring. i'm going to bring in michael shure, our epic political correspondent. they're even running ads now or it seems like ads campaign ads even...
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we need tax reform and higher tax rates on upper income households. >> it seems you could do the tax rates at the end of this year because you could make the kind of deal that you want and then do some of the closing of the loopholes on subsidies. i would hope as a state that have strong businesses that support doing this, you could bring the corporate tax rate down and work on the debt by closing the loopholes in subsidies. >> the tax reform is complicated. i am saying nail down the framework and then go to work and try to figure this out precisely. in terms of corporate tax reform, i think that is absolutely necessary, but i would think the goal there would be to make that revenue neutral if you can. you want to bring down the corporate rates so we can be more competitive. >> what about senator coburn's assessment, in wanting to reduce the debt? >> i disagree. i have a great deal of respect for the senator, but i disagree. the fact that we have so many tax expenditures both on the corporate and income tax side that operates with inefficiency, with jobs going overseas, we need to se
we need tax reform and higher tax rates on upper income households. >> it seems you could do the tax rates at the end of this year because you could make the kind of deal that you want and then do some of the closing of the loopholes on subsidies. i would hope as a state that have strong businesses that support doing this, you could bring the corporate tax rate down and work on the debt by closing the loopholes in subsidies. >> the tax reform is complicated. i am saying nail down...
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taxes, you have been paid sales taxes or hidden taxes, so in the end in big states, people will be paying 60 -- a minimum of 60 cents of every dollar they make to the government. and i ask you, after every american is finished paying their fair share, how much of every dollar should they be allowed to keep, juan? and i want a direct answer. don't dodge, don't duck. what is fair? >> i don't duck. i always am straight with you, sean because i think you deserve an honest answer. number one, we are talking about federal taxation. if you want to have a argument with your county or city government, new york city and westchester county or long island go have it. >> you are not answering. >> but if you are talking about federal tax, right i'm saying to you i between between 35 and 39 is totally good. >> but that's not addressing it. wait a second. this is not a small issue. after somebody pace their federal, their state, their social security, their property, their car tax, their sales tax, after they are done giving the government their fair share, state, local, federal, what is fair? give me a
taxes, you have been paid sales taxes or hidden taxes, so in the end in big states, people will be paying 60 -- a minimum of 60 cents of every dollar they make to the government. and i ask you, after every american is finished paying their fair share, how much of every dollar should they be allowed to keep, juan? and i want a direct answer. don't dodge, don't duck. what is fair? >> i don't duck. i always am straight with you, sean because i think you deserve an honest answer. number one,...
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tax the rich first. obama, if he got his taxes on the rich, is still $8 trillion short over the next decade. that's where the energy taxes he's going to present and the value added tax that ultimately turns us into a european welfare state only of that can pay for obama's sized government. >> wow. grover, unfortunately we have to leave it there. our discussion of unicorns will continue, i'm sure, at least up until december 31st. thank you for joining us today as always. >> you got it. >> after the break, offer ver ses counteroffer. we will break both down with ezra klein when he joins us next on "now." i gave birth to my daughter on may 18th, five days later, i had a massive heart attack. bayer aspirin was the first thing the emts gave me. now, i'm on a bayer aspirin regimen. [ male announcer ] be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. [ woman ] learn from my story. but proven technologies allow natural gas producers to supply affordable, cleaner energy, while protecting our env
tax the rich first. obama, if he got his taxes on the rich, is still $8 trillion short over the next decade. that's where the energy taxes he's going to present and the value added tax that ultimately turns us into a european welfare state only of that can pay for obama's sized government. >> wow. grover, unfortunately we have to leave it there. our discussion of unicorns will continue, i'm sure, at least up until december 31st. thank you for joining us today as always. >> you got...
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we'll see hikes in taxs and sales tax increases and more worse is bankruptcies. we see that in stockton and san bernardino. we go to court and bankruptcy law versus pension law. you can see current services cut. tax hikes and other lousy outcomes if we don't see reforms. >> you admit we are having problems paying out the pensions. they are bankrupting. >> the pblem is that los angeles is not the place. and it is a ballot initiative. you have front runners that become mayor . they will not support it it was a nonstarter and never going to work in thetave . you have a better chance of succeeding. >> at least it was a plan . it is no law that said you cannot change 401 k's. that is future and new hires and for their plans. you don't have ill defed benefits and by the way the private sector doesn't get. there is a pension liabity in the state of the california. vicki is right. government services are starting to get cut in cities in california . so i tell you, it doesn't cut it when you have things like let's raise the retirement age to age 52. >> the fact is, these
we'll see hikes in taxs and sales tax increases and more worse is bankruptcies. we see that in stockton and san bernardino. we go to court and bankruptcy law versus pension law. you can see current services cut. tax hikes and other lousy outcomes if we don't see reforms. >> you admit we are having problems paying out the pensions. they are bankrupting. >> the pblem is that los angeles is not the place. and it is a ballot initiative. you have front runners that become mayor . they...
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but what i want to tell you is that ronald reagan agreed to tax reform that led to lower tax rates but also higher tax revenues from rich folks because it got rid of loopholes and deductions. >> stephen: you lower tax rates, revenues get higher. i already said that earlier. >> it's a complicated thing. >> stephen: it's not complicated lower/higher. >> you can get revenue gains from making it cleaner and fairer and more transparent and that's what republicans --. >> stephen: wait, simplifying the tax code, closing loopholes, is that not raising taxes? are those two things different? >> you have hit on a very tricky and important issue, stephen, which is that, yes, there's a way to raise average tax rates on high earners without raising the marginal tax rate on high earners. >> stephen: wow, i'm interested in what you just said and yet it's incrediblebly boring at the same time. (laughter) >> fair enough. i'm trying to say that you can industrial a 35% top rate and say wait a second, rich people are not able to take the same kind of deductions that take take under today's tax code. >> st
but what i want to tell you is that ronald reagan agreed to tax reform that led to lower tax rates but also higher tax revenues from rich folks because it got rid of loopholes and deductions. >> stephen: you lower tax rates, revenues get higher. i already said that earlier. >> it's a complicated thing. >> stephen: it's not complicated lower/higher. >> you can get revenue gains from making it cleaner and fairer and more transparent and that's what republicans --. >>...
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reform said we can -- we don't have to raise tax rates, we can lower tax rates by capping deducts. he said that. lou: where is coordinated action and rhetoric from the party? i'm talking about from mayors to governors. >> we have been great with policy, but we've been clumsy courtroom communicators. >> boehner will let this backfire, we are higher taxing, no growth, no jobs, fake interest rates, in two years the republican party comes back stronger. >> we're sing is political fear at its best, by being a washington dc insider i belve we can still get a deal, we have two proposal on the table. >> to get to your point, lou, from a conservative perspective, over in 6 was a national suicide. -- november 6 was a national suicide. a very thin find red line, that red line of republican party. if this party also commits suicide, this will be catastrophic. neil: we'll explore further why it is that republicans are having trouble with two areas, one winning elects and the other governing, we'll be back with tha-team, and we'll find out who is in charge o this assault on christmas among other
reform said we can -- we don't have to raise tax rates, we can lower tax rates by capping deducts. he said that. lou: where is coordinated action and rhetoric from the party? i'm talking about from mayors to governors. >> we have been great with policy, but we've been clumsy courtroom communicators. >> boehner will let this backfire, we are higher taxing, no growth, no jobs, fake interest rates, in two years the republican party comes back stronger. >> we're sing is political...
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we preserved the estate tax, the tax on -- the low tax rates on dividends. look at the things we got off this proposal. you should back this. >> do you think he's even giving them cover on this because it's so extreme? >> i think he wants boehner to go back to his caucus and say this is where the president started. look at the hardball negotiating i did to get the president down from $1.6 trillion on tax hikes to $1 trillion on tax hikes. i saved $600 billion in tax hikes and that's probably the most effective if not the only way he can negotiate this bill. >> how do the republicans -- what is their next move. chuck schumer saying if house republicans consider the president's budget a new offer we await their counteroffer. the ball is in their court to state on what they would do on entitlements and taxes. they have given no specifics so far. >> that's a tough question for them. by the way, you said this reminds you of dillon going electric. i think of the scene in the god father michael corleoneny, my offer is nothing, not even the fee for the contract whic
we preserved the estate tax, the tax on -- the low tax rates on dividends. look at the things we got off this proposal. you should back this. >> do you think he's even giving them cover on this because it's so extreme? >> i think he wants boehner to go back to his caucus and say this is where the president started. look at the hardball negotiating i did to get the president down from $1.6 trillion on tax hikes to $1 trillion on tax hikes. i saved $600 billion in tax hikes and that's...
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. >> sean: same with value added tax after eliminating the fair tax is good, each one is progressive, the more you make, the more you spend. >> people get a flat tax. fair share, think flat tack. i'm starting to see forbes about it and listen this is what we ought to be doing. >> sean: where is the president? why the constant campaign? after every election there's a period when things can get den, good things. i was saying this to bob woodward, one in six in poverty, 50 million on food stamps this is not a time to play games this is a time to get this country out of the fiscal mess it is in, live within our means that means really doing big things, touching entitlements saving them from bankruptcy. campaigning in pennsylvania using class warfare. >> it is more egregious when you know we've had four deaths in libya. what happened how can we avoid that mistake in the future? when you go around the country and texas and people are hurting and struggling and it is breaking their heart to make ends meet and you know we have more energy than anybody in the world and not using it. >> sean: i
. >> sean: same with value added tax after eliminating the fair tax is good, each one is progressive, the more you make, the more you spend. >> people get a flat tax. fair share, think flat tack. i'm starting to see forbes about it and listen this is what we ought to be doing. >> sean: where is the president? why the constant campaign? after every election there's a period when things can get den, good things. i was saying this to bob woodward, one in six in poverty, 50...
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tax rates. it may be just tax rates higher for those making half a million a year, i think they'll retreat a little bit. >> i think, too, what i'd like to see the republicans do, i'd like to see them pass a bill extending tax cuts below $250,000 and everyone agrees those should be put through and then put through another bill that extends the tax cuts on those $250,000 and above and let the democrats take ownership because you know, they're going to be held responsible for the economic performance of 2013 and come 2014, you can actually get a political change that might make a difference. stuart: we'll wait and see on that one. art laffer, always a pleasure. >> bye now. stuart: the republicans submit their fiscal cliff solution. now, that plan put out by speaker boehner, includes 800 billion dollars in extra tax revenues and that would come from limiting deductions and not from higher tax rates. and there would also be 1.2 trillion dollars worth of spending cuts and the white house immediately d
tax rates. it may be just tax rates higher for those making half a million a year, i think they'll retreat a little bit. >> i think, too, what i'd like to see the republicans do, i'd like to see them pass a bill extending tax cuts below $250,000 and everyone agrees those should be put through and then put through another bill that extends the tax cuts on those $250,000 and above and let the democrats take ownership because you know, they're going to be held responsible for the economic...
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tax rates. tax rates. tax rates, tax rates. like tourettes. that is all they want. >>neil: member the middle ground they rumored about last week, maybe not 39.6 percent the top rate, but mid-30's but regardless you think the rate will change. >>guest: i am pessimistic short run and long run. there is in reason why they should go up but i think they will. we need to just limit the growth of spending to 2.5 percent a year on average and the fight is about taxes going up so that spending can go up and that is a game leapfrog. we end up with more debt and a weaker economy. the road map is greece, italy, spain, all over europe but the president thinks you can tax-and-spend your way to prosperity. >>neil: what the administration throws back on the issue is take a look at italy and greece, austerity has worked. you say what? >>guest: they have a strange definition. alwaysst either to them means higher taxes in europe and the united states austerity means less spending. i am in favor of the right definition of austerity. the balkan countries got out of the mess and now they
tax rates. tax rates. tax rates, tax rates. like tourettes. that is all they want. >>neil: member the middle ground they rumored about last week, maybe not 39.6 percent the top rate, but mid-30's but regardless you think the rate will change. >>guest: i am pessimistic short run and long run. there is in reason why they should go up but i think they will. we need to just limit the growth of spending to 2.5 percent a year on average and the fight is about taxes going up so that...
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the social security payroll tax. there is a tax increase in january. unless someone steps up and says wait a second, we are getting everyone else a tax break and let social security tax go up 2%. >> bret: winners and losers? >> bill kristol is turning in to a socialist. [ laughter ] >> family tradition. way back. >> secretary of the treasury sitting right over there. workers, champion. the winner mahmoud abbas locally because he outshone hamas on this even though the victory he won in the u.n. was pyraquan. loser speaker of the house john boehner. he offered the president a peace pipe and got in return a demand that he turned over his sword, his shirt and at the end his trousers. that is a rather embarrassing position for the speaker. >> bret: he will be asked about it on "fox news sunday" with chris wallace. that is it for the panel. but stay tuned to see one thing congress did accomplish today. victor! victor! i got your campbell's chunky soup. mom? who's mom? i'm the giants mascot. the giants don't have a mascot! ohhh! eat up! new jammin jerk chicke
the social security payroll tax. there is a tax increase in january. unless someone steps up and says wait a second, we are getting everyone else a tax break and let social security tax go up 2%. >> bret: winners and losers? >> bill kristol is turning in to a socialist. [ laughter ] >> family tradition. way back. >> secretary of the treasury sitting right over there. workers, champion. the winner mahmoud abbas locally because he outshone hamas on this even though the...
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he voted for reduced rates on capital gains taxes. he voted to keep subsidies for oil and gas companies. that's a big one. but the best part of louie gohmert's crusade to protect the word "lunatic" is this -- >> this administration sent planes and bombs and support to oust gadhafi so that al qaeda and the muslim brotherhood could take over libya. i don't want to make you sick, but i brought an abortion to show you today. and i would just like to conclude with words of my friend, dick morris, who said, i know there's a disagreement on when life begins in america, but for heaven's sake, we ought to agree that life ends when you die. >> now we know why congressman louie gohmert of texas feels so passionately about protecting the word "lunatic." >>> coming up, one of the world's biggest companies is coming back to america. they're not worried about profits. they're worried about the american workforce. we'll explain why, next. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, now is a good time to think about your options. are you looki
he voted for reduced rates on capital gains taxes. he voted to keep subsidies for oil and gas companies. that's a big one. but the best part of louie gohmert's crusade to protect the word "lunatic" is this -- >> this administration sent planes and bombs and support to oust gadhafi so that al qaeda and the muslim brotherhood could take over libya. i don't want to make you sick, but i brought an abortion to show you today. and i would just like to conclude with words of my friend,...
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i don't want to see tax rates go up. again, i'm not sitting in the white house, and i'm not sitting in the senate. i'll do everything i can to make sure it doesn't happen. dennis: i'll take that as a no. are the democrats truly willing to let us go over the cliff if the republicans refuse to raise rates on the rich? >> i think there's a constituency on both sides, republican and democrat, that would be willing to see that happen for ideological as well as political reasons. i think we both hope that that does not happen, and i think what he said is correct. the republicans did put forward a plan. it's a reasonable plan, but, look, i got news for you. this is a negotiation. they are not going to get everything they want, the democrats not everything they want. just having a plan on the table and criticizing the other side and walking away doesn't help anybody. dennis: it doesn't. how much of what we watch are just postturing posturing and knowing secretly you'll reach a settlement? >> we understand how important it is tha
i don't want to see tax rates go up. again, i'm not sitting in the white house, and i'm not sitting in the senate. i'll do everything i can to make sure it doesn't happen. dennis: i'll take that as a no. are the democrats truly willing to let us go over the cliff if the republicans refuse to raise rates on the rich? >> i think there's a constituency on both sides, republican and democrat, that would be willing to see that happen for ideological as well as political reasons. i think we...
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the president has been clear and we support him on holding firm to the 250 tax cuts, expiration of tax cuts for people making over $250,000 a year. that would be part of a big package that has big can cuts. we've already voted for over a trillion dollars in cuts. revenue is needed and job creation is essential to reduce the deficit. we believe if you want to reduce the deficit grow the economy. it's all together. that is attested by every bipartisan task force, commission, you name it that has come together. you can't get here from here in terms of deficit reduction and fiscal soundness without having revenues be on the table. i'd like to yield to the assistant leader for his comments. >> thank you. i think that this meeting was very very fruitful. it simply remind us once again of exactly why we are here. but i don't know -- but i would add to what the leader has said the time for posturing is over which we are in the holiday season when people will love to turn to their families with some certainty and i think we ought to give them that. and it's very easy to do. the president has la
the president has been clear and we support him on holding firm to the 250 tax cuts, expiration of tax cuts for people making over $250,000 a year. that would be part of a big package that has big can cuts. we've already voted for over a trillion dollars in cuts. revenue is needed and job creation is essential to reduce the deficit. we believe if you want to reduce the deficit grow the economy. it's all together. that is attested by every bipartisan task force, commission, you name it that has...
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>> i think most people aren't focused on this, the payroll tax holiday will expire, so that's a 2% tax increase. but i don't think most people even realize they got the tax cut and it's one of the reasons why it will go away because policymakers aren't getting any credit for it. >> so if we they mathematically it will be a hit to gdp, is it going to be something that the economy gets knocked off course is this>> i think the final deal will have fiscal drag in it. the expiration of the payroll tax holiday will be part of that. emergency unemployment insurance program will expire. and of course that higher tax rate on upper income households. >> a lot of people will be without those job rest benefits. >> and if you look at all the stimulus that's been provided since the recession hit will, part of that is emergency unemployment insurance. yeah. so that's been a big part of it. it is winding down because unemployment in the united states is declining. and people have run out of time. >> how important was the ability to raise the debt limit without hitting the ceiling constantly? >> the de
>> i think most people aren't focused on this, the payroll tax holiday will expire, so that's a 2% tax increase. but i don't think most people even realize they got the tax cut and it's one of the reasons why it will go away because policymakers aren't getting any credit for it. >> so if we they mathematically it will be a hit to gdp, is it going to be something that the economy gets knocked off course is this>> i think the final deal will have fiscal drag in it. the...
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there is also other taxes like gasoline tax, phone tax. we pay a lot of money to foreign countries that we do not need to. as i think about taxes. guest: this is kind of one of the ideas that republicans talk about, and democrats talk about when we talk about moving to tax reform. it is getting the individual provisions. right now it is a complicated mess. the kind of start over with a simple system that has a few income brackets. easier said than done. that is one of the goals here. host: jim from twitter says -- guest: absolutely. a lot of these credits and deductions, the standard deduction exceeds what you would get, that you just take that. host: the specific credits we have been talking about prompt a question from cindy. guest: yes. you generally have to be working are working outside the home. host: is there an hour requirements? guest: there are a lot of specific requirements. host: kay from richmond, virginia. caller: if somebody is working as hard as they can and making less than $50,000 a year, they count on this refund every y
there is also other taxes like gasoline tax, phone tax. we pay a lot of money to foreign countries that we do not need to. as i think about taxes. guest: this is kind of one of the ideas that republicans talk about, and democrats talk about when we talk about moving to tax reform. it is getting the individual provisions. right now it is a complicated mess. the kind of start over with a simple system that has a few income brackets. easier said than done. that is one of the goals here. host: jim...
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he will not pay the tax rates. fairness is among the other americans, not him. that's my two cents more. thars all for to be the. thank you for joining us, dvr the show if you can't catch us live. have a great night. we'll see you right back here tomorrow. ♪ lou: the obama administration tonight ramping up diplomatic efforts to end seer -- syria's bloody civil war and the fear assad could use chemical weapons against his own people. the military is prepared to use poisen gas bombs, secretary of hillary clinton flew to dublin to hold a meeting with her russian counter part and u.n. enjoy to syria meeting to discuss how they would end the now 21-month long conflict in syria and how to move assad from power. and there's no sign they had to reverse the support, and today, a senior lawmaker says the syria government is now incapable of functioning properly. just before the meeting with the russian foreign minister, secretary clinton insisted that the united states and russia share common goals in the region. >> trying
he will not pay the tax rates. fairness is among the other americans, not him. that's my two cents more. thars all for to be the. thank you for joining us, dvr the show if you can't catch us live. have a great night. we'll see you right back here tomorrow. ♪ lou: the obama administration tonight ramping up diplomatic efforts to end seer -- syria's bloody civil war and the fear assad could use chemical weapons against his own people. the military is prepared to use poisen gas bombs, secretary...